The Omphalos of Nintendo
Does problems arise with no MotionPlus in the nunchuck?
Can Ninty add MotionPlus to the nunchuck as well? They wont, or haven’t mentioned it at least, but of course, anything can happen until the release of the MotionPlus peripheral next year.
Problem with the new configuration wiimote MotionPlus and nunchuck arises in a game like the boxing game in Wii Sports. Let’s pretend that Nintendo will start selling all their Wii consoles with the MotionPlus technology at some point, and if they did do that, maybe they’d opt to make some changes to the Wii Sports title and make it compatible with the new technology. How would a sport such as boxing fare with the new technology? Pretty lously probably; because if it’s only the wiimote that’s uppgraded and not the nunchuck, you’d be boxing as if your right or left arm was slightly numb, you’d feel pretty dumb, you’d feel like as if something was missing: MotionPlus in the nunchuck as well.
Will an uppgraded nunchuck be announced? No, and there’s a simple reason why:
Nintendo can’t build attachments for the nunchuck, which in turn would mean that people would have to go out and buy new MotionPlus nunchucks and throw away the old ones, and that won’t ever happen. Nintendo knows that they can’t demand that people who’ve already invested a lot of money on their wii console and additional wiimotes go out and buy not only MotionPlus attachments for the wiimote, but also completely new nunchucks.
So as a final note, when Nintendo starts selling Wii consoles with wiimotes that pack MotionPlus technology and a new version of Wii Sports that takes advantage of the new technology, expect a sport like boxing to be included, but just not controlled in the old fashion, but rather with two wiimotes instead of a wiimote and a nunchuck (of course, this would probably render it an unlockable event).
But to conclude, does problems arise if the nunchuck wont be uppgraded in the same way as the wiimote? No, because the nunchuck is just a sidekick to the wiimote. Let the wiimote do the magic, and have the nunchuck allow for an analog stick and a good shaking once in a while. Still, it’s of course always sad to see the gap between the two different controllers widen so much when it comes to detecting motion.
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09/01/2008 - 5:01 AM
And if the WiiMotion Capture to nunchuk works with AAA batery,or, those watch battery, you could make possibile transform your nunchuk into a 1:1, you just need to think in way to send this information to wiimote, that will send it to wii, can be a cable or some bluetooth acessory, think in this nunchuk wii motionplus as a sock, and the nuchuk as a foot, and you can adapt the acessory to nunchuk…
i don’t think that’s impossible, nintendo just need to want to do
but, if yout think from marketing vantage point, that not will be so smart…
a new accessory, bleeeeeeeeeeegh!!
08/30/2008 - 5:49 PM
:) use 2 wiimotes …jk
btw motionPlus is enough for the wiimote…
08/30/2008 - 12:30 PM
okey, all good then
08/30/2008 - 11:45 AM
Wait i misunderstood your comment, nvm that.
08/30/2008 - 11:44 AM
But thats the thing, Motion plus is designed in a way to work with the Wii-remote.
So why would it not be designed to work with the Nunchuck?
” the only purpose to send data to the accelerometer and enhances its performance..”
Thats my point, Nunchuck movements are also processed by accelerometer.
So why would it not work with Motion plus?
If i remember correctly the makers of the chip did say Motion plus was made with the Wii-remote in mind…
” exact same location as the source ”
The nunchuck is directly connected to the add-on.
For that matter Nintendo could have added a cable just like the Nunchuck…and it still would be directly connected.
Nintendo has not opened their mouths about it, but since the add-on was made to work with accelerometer I really wonder if the Nunchuck will benefit from this.
If not its kinda lame.
08/30/2008 - 11:25 AM
Yeah, that would have been nice. I’m sorry to say that it probably wouldn’t work though.. as I wrote, it’s not just data.. the MotionPlus peripheral isn’t just data, it’s gyroscopes, gyroscopes makes possible more precise motion detection. In other words: you would have to have similar gyroscopes attached to the nunchuck in order for it to pick up all those additional movements; and with that I mean, in same space, not attached through a cable from the wiimote.
The gyroscope isn’t a mini computer with the only purpose to send data to the accelerometer and enhances its performance.. the gyroscopes are additional motion sensing devices that work in conjunction with the accelerometer, so they have to be in the exact same location as the source (the controller) in order to work. It’s not a “motion amplifier” it’s an additional sensor that picks up motion, and in order to pick up subtle motions it has to be on the spot where it does that, hope I got it cleared out for you.
08/30/2008 - 11:24 AM
won’t work. The Motionplus is just another sensor (like a gyroscope or something), which the nunchuck won’t have. So even though they’re connected, the said sensor is still on the wiimote and not the nunchuck. Therefore the Motionplus can only detect motions made by the Wiimote.
08/30/2008 - 9:56 AM
what i meant was,
the Nunchuck is connected trought motionplus, so it would be weird if the Nunchuck won’t be working as a 1:1 device.
All the data of the nunchuck is send trough the Wii-mote back to the console…
Why would it not be possible to be like : the data is first “catched” by the motion plus add-on to process the data ( incombo with the gyroscopes for 1:1 just like the Wii-mote) and then all together sent back to the Wii trough the Wii-mote.
08/30/2008 - 9:27 AM
MotionPlus would work with the nunchuck as well, although you don’t have my word on it.
I’m just trying to make a point that it’s unlikely we’ll see the nunchuck getting an upgrade as well, since the nunchucks design doesn’t make it very convenient to add MotionPlus attachments to it in the same way as the wiimote does.
“Wiimote 2.0″ allows for upgrades to the current wiimote (attachments) and new wiimotes.
“Nunchuck 2.0″ wouldn’t allow for upgrades to the current nunuchuck, it would only be possible to ship as new, redesigned, enhanced “nunchuck 2.0’s”, and the reason for that is because:
you can’t add attachments to the nunchuck, its design doesn’t make that possible (in fact, the nunchuck in itself is an attachment to the wiimote)
you can’t, as a company, go out and tell people to buy both new nunchucks and wiimote attachments, it’s too expensive for those who already have a console
you don’t introduce a new controller with new functions that’s not craved for by the developers or consumers (or the company itself for that matter) unless it’s introduction doesn’t add completely new gameplay mechanics (in example a rumble pack to the new ps3 controller wasn’t that big of a deal).. but a “nunchuck 2.0″ would mean new gameplay mechanics, but since it’s not craved for in the same way as the “wiimote 2.0″ is, it’s not smart to release such a product.
and finally: it’s not possible to release two new attachments to the market at once, it makes the consumer confused.
ergo:
“nunchuck 2.0″ wont happen this generation.
If you maybe meant by “be designed to catch that data too” that the MotionPlus worked wirelessly, it’s a no. One MotionPlus for one wiimote, although it would have been cool–if it had been possible–to have the MotionPlus work wirelessly and enhance the performance of several controllers at once (i.e. one wiimote and one nunchuck unit) but that’s really impossible.. it doesn’t enhance the performance of the accelerometer simply through data, it uses a gyroscope (or several in fact) so it wouldn’t be possible to have one MotionPlus attachment work wonders for several “old” controllers.
But yeah, I get that you didn’t mean that :) Just cleared it out for anyone who didn’t :)
08/30/2008 - 6:21 AM
Just wondering, if the same data in the nunchuck is being processed just like the Wii mote(trough the accelerometers)…
Why wouldnt motion plus be designed to catch that data too?